Joel Ong
University of Sydney
with Nicholas Rui, Claudia Reyes, Sarbani Basu,
Willem Hoogendam, Vincent Vanlaer
ISSI-BJ, April 16 2026
Hare “Zebedee”, Cunha+ (2021)

Using \Delta\nu and \nu_\mathrm{max} only
Precise measurements of field stars: {\sigma_R \over R} \lesssim 2 \%;\ {\sigma_M \over M} \lesssim 5 \%;\ \sigma_\text{Age} \lesssim 0.4\ \mathrm{Gyr}
All models are wrong,
but some are useful.
— George E. P. Box
Data: y_\text{obs} \in Y
Models: x_i \in X;F: X \to Y
Best-fitting model: x = \mathop{\mathrm{argmax}}_{x_j \in X}\mathcal{L}\left(x_j\right)
F: \underbrace{\left(M, t, Y_0, Z_0, \alpha_\text{mlt}, \ldots\right)}_{x \in X} \mapsto \underbrace{\left(L, T_\text{eff}, [\text{M/H}], \log g, \ldots\right)}_{y \in Y}
/
/
/GARSTEC …
\color{darkorange} \to \Delta\nu, \nu_{\text{max}}, \left\{\nu_{n,\ell}\right\}

f-modes:
\omega_f \sim \sqrt{\left(\ell + {1\over
2}\right){GM\over R^3}}
↘
↑
p-modes: \omega_p \sim {\pi \over T}\left(n +
{\ell \over 2} + \epsilon_p\right)
\begin{array}{c} {\scriptsize\text{Power}}\\ \big\uparrow \end{array}
\longrightarrow {\scriptsize\text{Frequency}}
Frequencies constrain.
Frequency differences constrain differentially.
Rotational inversions constrain differential rotation
(e.g. Yoshiki Hatta’s talk)
two standard
solar models
S_{ij}[{\color{blue}{\rho}}, {\color{orange}c_s}] \equiv \int \bm\xi_i^*\cdot \left(\hat{\mathcal L} \bm \xi_j\right) \mathrm d^3 x \equiv \int L_{ij}\ \mathrm d r\ \ (= -\delta_{ij} \omega_i^2)
\delta S_{ij} = \int {\delta L_{ij} \over \delta \rho} {\color{blue}\delta\rho(r)}\mathrm d r + \int \underbrace{\delta L_{ij} \over \delta c_s}_{\mathclap{{\partial L_{ij} \over \partial c_s} - {\mathrm d \over \mathrm d r}{\partial L_{ij} \over \partial c_s'} + \ldots}} {\color{orange}\delta c_s(r)}\mathrm d r = V_{ij}
{\delta\omega_i \over \omega_i} = -{V_{ii} \over 2\omega_i^2} = \int K_{c_s,\rho,i}{\delta c_s \over c_s}\ \mathrm d r + \int K_{\rho,c_s,i}{\delta \rho \over \rho}\ \mathrm d r
{\delta\omega_i \over \omega_i} = -{V_{ii} \over 2\omega_i^2} = \int K_{c_s,\rho,i}{\delta c_s \over c_s}\ \mathrm d r + \int K_{\rho,c_s,i}{\delta \rho \over \rho}\ \mathrm d r
{\delta\omega_i \over \omega_i} \approx \sum_j {\color{green}\Delta r K_{c_s,i}(r_j)}{\color{purple}{\delta c_s(r_j) \over c_s}} + \sum_j {\color{green}\Delta r K_{\rho,i}(r_j)}{\color{purple}{\delta \rho(r_j) \over \rho}}
\huge \mathbf{b} = {\color{green}\mathbf{A}}{\color{purple}\mathbf{x}}
Recipe:
(e.g. Bellinger+ 2017, 2019; Pedersen+ 2018;
Vanlaer+ 2023; Buchele+ 2024)
Bellinger+ 2019
Buchele+ 2024
Relative difference in isothermal sound speed

* it’s hard
Evolved stars and classical pulsators dominate our asteroseismic sample.
(avoided
crossings can be decoupled:
Ong and Basu 2020)
We can only meaningfully compare dimensionless
quantities, scaled by combinations
of R and \omega_0 = \sqrt{G M \over R^3}.
Problem: We don’t (usually) know the mass and radius of a star in advance.

κ Cyg has TESS asteroseismology…
…and state-of-the-art CHARA interferometry.
Asteroseismic and Interferometric
radius estimates
do not agree.
(Chowhan et al, 2026)

Problem: Kernel shapes themselves depend on
structure!
(and are nonuniformly distributed)
From asymptotic analysis of p-modes, \xi_r \sqrt{\rho c_s r^2} \sim s_{\ell}(\omega t + \phi), where t(r) = \int_0^r \mathrm d r'/c_s is the acoustic radius and s_\ell(x) = \sqrt{\pi x \over 2} J_{\ell + {1\over2}}.
Proposal: Let’s choose t as the integration coordinate
(kernels for differences at matching t rather than r)
(similar analysis possible for g-modes)
(use for rotational inversions: Ong et al. 2024)
Highly similar kernels for very different radiistellar structures!
Blue =
; Orange
= 
Inversions now viable with kernels from models that are not exact matches to a star’s internal structure!
Perturbation
should remain linear over relatively large
evolutionary/mass range.
Asteroseismic inversions have historically been
expensive because stellar modelling is hard.
By performing inversions in carefully chosen
coordinates,
Star-vs.-star inversions (e.g. in clusters) may now be possible.
\mathrm{j}\mathrm{o}\mathrm{e}\mathrm{l}\cdot\mathrm{o}\mathrm{n}\mathrm{g}\ \text{@}\ \text{sydney}.\text{edu}.\text{au}
\newcommand{\rr}{{\color{blue}{\rho}}} \newcommand{\gv}{{\color{blue}{\mathbf{g}}}} \begin{aligned} \Large -\omega^2 \rr \bm{\xi} &= \small \nabla \left(\rr {\color{orange}c_s^2} \nabla \cdot \bm\xi\right) + \nabla \left(\rr \bm\xi \cdot \gv\right) - \gv \nabla \cdot (\rr \bm\xi) - \rr G \nabla\left(\int \mathrm d^3 x' {\nabla' \cdot(\rr \bm\xi) \over |\mathbf{x - x}'|}\right)\\ &\Large \equiv \hat{\mathcal{L}}\bm{\xi}. \end{aligned}
Consider two stars with identical M
and R,
but with different internal structures: \hat{\mathcal{L}}_0\xi_{0,n} = -\omega_{0,n}^2
\xi_{0,n};~~~~\hat{\mathcal{L}}\xi_{n} = -\omega_{n}^2 \xi_{n}.
We write \hat{\mathcal{L}} =
\hat{\mathcal{L}}_0 + \lambda {\hat{\mathcal{V}}}, so that \lambda \in [0,1] interpolates linearly
between the two structures.